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This is a condolence book for those wishing to leave their thoughts on the passing of the Betamax video format. Betamax production has now ceased.

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( 183 people have signed this condolence book since September 2. 2002 )


Pat Williams from USA left the message below on April 3. 2009, 12:03:
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I liked your site.
Beta was better
en from Europe left the message below on July 12. 2008, 23:37:
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We started life using betamax slf1 then in 1990 alern8's first music video was edited using the mighty SL HF950 and played on air by bbc which was a bit of a coup in those days back then there was such thing as broadcast standard and super beta was only a domestic format, it was a great deck to to animation on and great editing. i still have superbeta recorded tapes that need transfer - but sadly i cant get hold of a superbeta deck to do the transfer, anyone who has a sbeta for sale or loan please let me know. I have betamovie camcorder wich was the first domestic camcorder its a classic now we also have the red jvc vhsc camcorder as seen on back to the future , another classic %3F i read that this was also knowen as the first domestic camcorder, what do you think, is this the 1st or was it betamax 1st to the post cheers En
Beta was better
MR M.D.EADE from United Kingdom left the message below on April 27. 2008, 23:07:
E-mail: theshack at btinternet.com
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my SL-F1 is still going strong. i have found that betacam sp tapes are fully compatible. a great machine. the beta format will always be remembered. and in some cases still being used."BRING IT BACK"
Beta was better
Sebastian McLuvin from United Kingdom left the message below on January 2. 2008, 19:00:
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Love the site, very interesting stuff.
Beta was better
Levi from United Kingdom left the message below on October 22. 2007, 10:16:
E-mail: trowbridge_tron at btinternet.com
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2007 BETAMAX and beyond! To boldly go where no Betamax has gone before. Still using my Sanyo VTC5000 from 1982 , absolute perfection , works great. Which is more than i can say for my Digi box receiver and Dvd recorder . Japanese technology at it's best ....Chinese electronic equipment is ' pants '
Beta was better
RAFAEL ALFREDO ZAPATA from Other left the message below on October 4. 2007, 00:48:
E-mail: ZAPATARAFAELII at HOTMAIL.COM
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EL BETAMAX MEJOR SISTEMA
Beta was better
leonardo from Other left the message below on October 2. 2007, 23:34:
E-mail: leonardo-ferraz at bol.com.br
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the beta machine never die he live in ours dreams and hearts
Beta was better
RAFAEL ALFREDO ZAPATA from Other left the message below on August 24. 2007, 22:37:
E-mail: ZAPATARAFAELII at HOTMAIL.COM
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ES UNA LASTIMA QUE SONY HAYA DEJADO DE PRODUCIR EL BETAMAX YA QUE TENIA O POSEE UNA EXTRAORDINARIA CALIDAD DE IMAGEN SUPERIOR AL VHS
Beta was better
ron from USA left the message below on August 20. 2007, 18:43:
E-mail: rhuffman10 at cox.net
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just found this site. glad to know there are other people out there who miss the betas. i still have over 300 beta tapes i wish i could watch. picture quality was so much better. can't even find anyone who knowa how to work on the little devils now.
Beta was better
ray from Australia left the message below on July 7. 2007, 03:19:
E-mail: raygosh1 at yahoo.com
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ive heard so much about beta and how it was better than vhs so i bought a sony sl-c35.it works great.built like a tank though even vhs was as well in those days.you get no arguments from me that beta was the superior format.despite all this,you really cant compare the beta or vhs vcr's of the 1980's to the current day vhs vcr's.the 80's vcr's are slow.to rewind or fast forward a tape takes all day.if you want to search through a tape%3Bthat is fast forward during play,that will take you another day.i dont know what the more recent betas were like as i never saw any.you dont see any either on ebay.its all old stuff.i have panasonic vcr's %7Bvhs of course%7Dfrom recent years and in terms of features,they are the best ever in my opinion.they are fast.they rewind etc in no time and their search speed is the best of any brand.i use that function a lot.they also have the EP recording mode which means you get 12 hours recording from a 4 hour tape.i know it reduces the quality but its still watchable.i mostly record of the tv and ive been told that beta is not much better than vhs for doing this.i beleive the difference between the formats was in the rental tapes.thats where beta was better.for me,beta is a novelty thing only.its a shame they lost the war though because their tapes are a much better size than the massive vhs tapes.still,we will all miss beta and fondly remember it
Beta was better
john from USA left the message below on July 7. 2007, 02:38:
E-mail: john456 at yahoo.com
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Beta was better
Dack from Europe left the message below on June 10. 2007, 20:59:
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Betamax forever ...
Beta was better
Stuart George from United Kingdom left the message below on May 15. 2007, 22:35:
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Sony sl-hf950, sl-hf100 sl-c9 x 2 What superb machines these are, especially the hf models..so much better than vhs. Is it still possible to get NEW head disk and upper drums for the c9 and 950%3F
Beta was better
Lance Avery from Australia signed the guestbook on May 3. 2007, 10:32.
E-mail: la-tenetattain at optusnet.com.au
Beta was better
sinan buyum from Europe left the message below on December 30. 2006, 07:35:
E-mail: buyum.sinan at isbank.net.tr
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sony slc-9 ecs shema for repair
Beta was better
Nikola from Europe left the message below on December 19. 2006, 16:53:
E-mail: paternikola at yahoo.co.uk
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Loved the Betamax long time ago...stil got the machine in working condition%21
Beta was better
Piet Hoosenz from Europe left the message below on December 9. 2006, 18:22:
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I still own a beta max here in Groningen in Netherlands
Beta was better
Ricky Guilmoto from United Kingdom left the message below on September 13. 2006, 11:44:
E-mail: rockyboy at guernsey.net
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Owned a Toshiba machine for about 20 years and it never let me down. Had the heads replaced once but that was all. In the end I had to stop using it as I could not get hold of blank tapes. RIP
Beta was better
Eliav Shames %28Israel%29 from Other left the message below on September 11. 2006, 17:07:
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I was born in 1992 in Pittsburgh PA. My parents had a Betamax Deck. Unfortunately I never had the opportunity to use it.However, I did a lot of research and this is just another unfortunate example of how people are suckers for marketing rather than quality. Reminds you of Microsoft doesn't it%3F
Beta was better
Andy from United Kingdom left the message below on July 4. 2006, 21:36:
E-mail: andyg89 at tiscali.co.uk
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Hi i have just found you site it's fantastic all i can say is keep up the good work the betamax format will always bring a tear to my eye the machines were just so much more than just a video recorder i still own my original Sony SLC7UB and have aquired over the years 3 C9's 2 F1's another C7 and the ultimate Betamax the Sony SLHF950 long live beta i can't see anybody collecting old VHS machines
Beta was better
guso from Other left the message below on May 12. 2006, 03:46:
E-mail: guslatt at tutopia.com
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Is there anybody that have the user guide of a Nec Pvc-2400. My uncle give me one recorder and i dont how it use.
Please send any answear as fast as possible.
Beta was better
Noel Higgins from Australia left the message below on November 25. 2005, 02:27:
E-mail: noel.higgins at acma.gov.au
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Beta is not dead until the final machine dies. I will keep
repairing mine and others as long as I can get parts, so
keep them going as best you can and don't just send them
to death in hard rubbish collections. Many peoples life
memories of families, locations, sport. trips, etc are
stored on beta tapes so there is a continued need for these
machines if only to transfer the images for storage onto the
next medium. My favorite machines are the Sony SLHF950,
SLC9AS, SLO1700 and SLHF100AS.
Beta was better
Dave Dixon from Other left the message below on September 30. 2005, 18:06:
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I am in Canada and have always used beta from the start (since
1984) I still have the very first recording I made (good guys
wear black) and it still plays, lets hope someone starts a club
for people like us and trys to keep the best format going
Beta was better
ersin from Europe left the message below on September 3. 2005, 22:08:
E-mail: orangeturco at yahoo.com
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You will never walk alone!
We will not forget you.How we can forgot you?
Our first betamax movie together with the first rental tape!
You are a history and you will leave in our hearts everytime.
Beta was better
the snail from USA left the message below on August 27. 2005, 00:15:
E-mail: thesnail at gastro.pod
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[email protected]_v - gee lupas... who's the bigger loser - people who still like their betamax vcrs or the wanker who deliberately seeks out a beta fansite to find a way to post a snivelling comment about what a loser people are for liking betas?
Beta was better
lupas from United Kingdom left the message below on August 23. 2005, 00:39:
E-mail: lupaslupas at hotmail.com
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jesus h christ, you lot need to get a life. betamax sucked big time, as does vhs. all you idiots saying dvd will die and go the way of laser disk need to get a wake up call.
digital is the future becouse as you may not know, there is no loss of quality, unlike crappy beta or vhs tapes. they degrade rapidly over time.
also what the hell is all this s**t about, oh my beta works perfect, perfect quality, bollocks, fact of the matter is, tapes lose quality when you record to them, fact of life.
GET A GOD DAMN LIFE! and stop moaning about a s**t format that died becouse it was s**t. you lot just say its a better format becouse you suckered into buying one and now are too proud to admit that there s**t.
Beta was better
andy griffin from United Kingdom left the message below on July 31. 2005, 23:07:
E-mail: andyg89 at tiscali.co.uk
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my first love a sony c7
Beta was better
morrie krumhorn from USA left the message below on May 25. 2005, 17:25:
E-mail: morrie at jew.com
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i still like to watch deep throat on my betamax
Beta was better
Mashilo Magongoa from Other left the message below on January 5. 2005, 14:08:
E-mail: mosima at operamail.com
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I just love my betamaxes...Sad to see their demise though...
Beta was better
David from USA left the message below on January 3. 2005, 08:41:
E-mail: gateschili2003 at yahoo.com
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Hello fellow Betafans,
I am 19 years old and I just started buying Beta Videos and VCRs a few years ago. I do remember when people were able to rent Beta Videos, but after 1991 was over, so was the Betamax. I would love to see either Sanyo or Sony manufacture brand new Beta VCRs for the general public. VHS was terrible and DVD will become obsolete like the Videodisc did. I want to get a petition going, so that Sony will realize how much the Betamax is missed and also how much they can profit by manufacturing brand new Sony Betamax VCRs. I have a few Beta VCRs for sale that I was going to list on eBay, but I cannot see a dealer getting his or her grubby little hands on them. One is a Sanyo Betacord and the other one is a Toshiba Beta VCR. These are in great working condition. If you are interested, please let me know as soon as you can. Thank you all for letting me speak my mind and be rest assured that Beta will return soon!
Beta was better
Caroline from Europe left the message below on November 14. 2004, 20:28:
E-mail: caroline007de at yahoo.de
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Beta isnt dead. Even if V2000 is more alive in the Netherlands
( where I am living ) now, because it was a dutch-german invention,
you can still buy blank tapes in some stores, and some videostores still
have some Betamax movies.
You can still get most of the spare parts from Germany
( incredible expensive ) or Japan ( much cheaper, but complicated to order and takes
an eternity ).
I have the HF-950 and its the best VCR I ever had.
Betamax will never die - even Super8 is still alive.
Beta was better
Turd Ferguson from USA left the message below on November 7. 2004, 01:00:
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A Poem for the Betamax format
by Rev. Turd Ferguson
I cry every night
tears shed for my pain,
but someday I'll die
and go to heaven
and watch movies on beta again.
Beta was better
Daniel R. from Other left the message below on November 4. 2004, 06:20:
E-mail: morrissey1986 at yahoo.com.mx
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My Sanyo 4030 VCR died three days ago, after 19 years of constant operation. THE BEST vcr i EVER HAVE.
Beta was better
bruce kennedy from United Kingdom left the message below on November 1. 2004, 20:56:
E-mail: kennedycolton at hotmail.com
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My introduction into the amazing world of self recorded was via a Sanyo Betamax recorder,followed by a Sony SLHF-950......Why did VHS win,God only knows,but I loved Betamax.R.I.P
Beta was better
blackJACK from United Kingdom left the message below on October 29. 2004, 12:20:
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betamax is a legend&dvds,vhs can never ever beat the betamax!!
Beta was better
Carlos E. Argott from USA left the message below on October 12. 2004, 19:10:
E-mail: argott2002 at yahoo.com
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As an ownwer of two beta vcr's: SL-HF860D and SL-HF1000 which are still smoothly working, I just regret the day this format passed away.
I bought them between 1985 and 1988, so it is really amazing their quality and reliability. Hail to this format!
Carlos E. Argott
Beta was better
ted from United Kingdom left the message below on October 1. 2004, 14:40:
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this may suprise you but I don't think the betamax
format is dead just because no more machines will
be built,think of the demise of the vinyl record
no one really thinks the record is extinct because
people still use them(I have a massive collection of
them!)so the betamax format is not really dead as
long as we still use it ,VHS is the format that is
really dying because less and less people are using
it as both tapes and machines are getting harder to
come by and one day will be impossible to find and the
remaing VHS machines will be thrown away shoved in lofts
never to see the light of day again also they will end up in
museums but betamax will last forever as it has a following
like classic cars and antique furnature regards Ted Barlow
Beta was better
Veronica H. Spencer from Australia left the message below on September 16. 2004, 18:39:
E-mail: VHS at yahoo.com
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Goodbye betamax, you weren't better (tho people thought you were) and now you are gone forever and only remembered by a few
sad anoraks who live in the past.
RIP bettamacks:)
Get ready for the DVD wars next........
Beta was better
Sandra (CTBA-PR-BRASIL) from Other left the message below on September 15. 2004, 22:55:
E-mail: sanmendes at brturbo.com
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O "PRIMEIRO AMOR", A GENTE NUNCA ESQUECE!!!! E NEM A PRIMEIRA FILMADORA "BETA"
Beta was better
Manuel Olive Gamez & Margo from Other left the message below on September 15. 2004, 21:16:
E-mail: manuelolive at walla.com
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Me dicen vete Beta, que vaina, aunque no funciona dede hace tiempo, guardo como 300 cassettes para verlos cuando consiga reparar mis dos maquinas. Adios Beta, vete, vete, Beta, no hay mecanicos para ti. el VHS y CD te han ahogado. Lamento tu deceso, era fanatico, pero mlas reparaciones me jodieron siempre...ciao, feliz muerte.
Beta was better
Spiros from Europe left the message below on September 3. 2004, 11:43:
E-mail: greekquoman at hotmail.com
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Hi I'm Spiros from Greece and I am 25. We owned in the family a beta machine but when we goy a loan to buy a house we were forced among other things to sell also our video (in 1988). Now I own 2 machines, a Sanyo VTC 5550 which was broken about 5 years but finally I managed to fix it and a wonderful Sony Superbeta SL 500ME MKII. The format dissapeared in Greece about 1990 and it's very difficult to find another Beta machine as a Hi-Fi and Superbeta.. But I'm searching always for one, and.. who knows sometimes I may be lucky..
Beta was better
daren richardson from United Kingdom left the message below on August 3. 2004, 04:39:
E-mail: camels713 at aol.com
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hi all i love my beta machine still have it in the lounge as everyday usaged.the machine is a sanyo 5150 model am desperate 4 a remote 4 it so if anybody has one 4 sale let me no. i really do hope they make beta machines again. well thinking about it some one must make them still as all tv studios use them.i will make my machine out live me and im only 26 lol.
Beta was better
Roger Hubbard from USA left the message below on August 2. 2004, 17:04:
E-mail: iquana at msn.com
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BetaMax was the premier format for video taping during its
time. The VHS format could not compare to the BetaMax.
I still have a BetaMax Machine and lots of movies taped
and shot with a Betacam. Too bad Sony did not market this
machine.
Beta was better
Roger Hubbard from USA left the message below on August 2. 2004, 17:00:
E-mail: iquana at msn.com
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BetaMax was the premier format for video taping during its
time. The VHS format could not compare to the BetaMax.
I still have a BetaMax Machine.
Beta was better
vassili from Australia left the message below on May 19. 2004, 15:38:
E-mail: ovassilios at yahoo.com.au
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Hi BetaFolks,
Just wondering, Where do betamax remote controls go to when they die?
Beta was better
Christopher Trevino from USA left the message below on April 29. 2004, 17:28:
E-mail: trev69fw at yahoo.com
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Dear sir I am planning to buy a beta player and would like to know
where i could buy movies?
Christopher Trevino
427 N Main Apt B
Bowling Green,Oh 43402
1-419-575-2303
Beta was better
teleskassa from Europe left the message below on April 18. 2004, 17:08:
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possiedo un nec pvc 2400 (uguale al sony sl 8080) e un sanio vtc 6000.
w il betamax e v2000.vhs fa cagare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beta was better
James from United Kingdom left the message below on April 12. 2004, 13:18:
E-mail: james.anderson1986 at ntlworld.com
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beta is the best... burn the jvc company and all your vhs tapes and badger sony until they agree to make the wonderful format again
Beta was better
Audio Video International from Europe left the message below on March 20. 2004, 14:11:
E-mail: avi at datawave.nl
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It is a very shame, that Sony has ceased their magnificent
range of Betamax Video recorders.
At the moment i am using the SL-F60, went haywire, now i have to buy another one or the SL-F-90, better they have
enough parts available and NOT to cease with those ones.
Beta was better
SSGX from USA left the message below on March 5. 2004, 12:14:
E-mail: supersaiyangokux at yahoo.com
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First off, you all have my condolences for the "loss" of your beloved format and machines......
I stumbled across this site during a search for the official meaning of the "VHS" acronym... And boy am I amazed!
Why? Well, let me tell you a little bit about myself: I am 23 years old (born in '80), I'm from the U.S., and my only familiarity with Beta is through "folklore", basically...
As far as I've ever known, Beta *was* dead... Never once in my entire life have I seen one, or any of the casettes... No store I've ever been in has ever had any of them, and no one I know (as far as I'm aware) has owned one during my lifetime...
VHS has ruled the home video recording industry over here for my entire lifetime... In fact, I'm not even sure how some of the other Americans on here seemed to have missed that point... Granted, some of them seem to be a bit older than I am, and a good deal of you guys appear to deal with Betas (and recording in general) on a professional level, whereas I have only ever used a VCR for casual movie watching, and the occasional recording of something off of the television...but again, for the average home user, VHS has been virtually the only option (or at least the *vastly* more popular option) for over 20 years now...
I believe a parallel can be drawn with the whole Mac vs PC struggle... Sure, Macs may be the better computer, but PCs are vastly more popular, and usually a good deal less expensive, and easier to find... I suspect that the same relationship applies to Beta vs VHS... Beta may be better, but I'd guess it is a bit more expensive, and as I've already mentioned, it's VASTLY more difficult to purchase here (if you can't find it in a Wal*Mart or a Best Buy, then it's too hard to find)...
I suppose it might be
Beta was better
Mike Ryan from Australia left the message below on March 4. 2004, 20:23:
E-mail: mike111ryan at yahoo.com
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My HF-100 was stolen but my HF-150AS is still
Beta was better
craig from United Kingdom left the message below on February 28. 2004, 23:29:
E-mail: sciroccoman15034 at aol.com
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Its a shame when you talk to poeple and they ask why do you want an old betamax video for!?,i have several and will keep the all going for ever if i can!,as i write this im nursing my mint c6 back to health,its got the servo wobbles!,so a handful of caps are being soldered in!! again!
.The format is fantastic,outclassing vhs from day one,and it was the lack of support from the makers...cost a few quid to make i spose,and the bloddy rental market for the lack of fims caused its demise here in the uk.Thanks to pal site for all the help in keeping theese bits of history alive!!!!,oh and does anybody know what the caution light on a betamove bmc 100 p means....it dosnt record anything and its the first one ive owned....keep the flag flying people!!!
Beta was better
ceebee from Australia left the message below on February 19. 2004, 23:49:
E-mail: pceebee at netscape.net
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I have owned Beta vcrs since 1980. They always provided better pictures and more stable ones. I barely need to touch the tracking control unlike VHS.
I still have my Sanyo 9300. It is a tank of a vcr but it just keeps working!
My pride and joy is a Toshiba 8600. It is a very nice machine almost equivalent to the C9 with 4 heads and perfect slomo and still frame and BNR on the sound track.
I bought one new in 1982 only to have it stolen 12 months later but after 20 years of searching I found one on eBay in perfect condition!!!!!! Amazing!!
Now it won't be long and VHS will die as digital recording takes off ...funny that after all this time the war will be over! But who will bemoan the loss of VHS?
Beta was better
Digame from USA left the message below on February 18. 2004, 22:35:
E-mail: digame at frontiernet.net
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Local cable commission will soon divest itself of "dated" equipment... including a Sony Trinitron BETA HVC-2200 and HVF-2000 viewfinder... there may be additional professional level Beta equipment and accessories available: Please e-mail me for further details!
Beta was better
Davicillo from Europe left the message below on February 10. 2004, 16:45:
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It was 20 years ago when my father bought his first Betamax VCR and videocamera (a SL-F1 and a HVC-4000P). Today, they still work.
I started to play, and to work with these machines when I was a child. Now, I'm a professional cameraman, and I use Betacam SP equipment.
I'll never understand why the Betamax format was defeated by the Very Horryble System, as it was the worst of the three domestic systems that emerged on the late 70's.
But Sony's engineers that designed Betamax can be proud of their work, not only because a lot of Betamax machines (as mine) are still in good conditions to work, but because the son of Betamax, the Betacam, became the most widely extended analog format for Broadcasting (because of the image quality provided by the format, as well as it's high portability and hardness, ask to war reporters) and the new Sony's digital workhorses are modifications of the Betacam: I'm talking of Betacam SX (18 Mbps, good for ENG & EFP) MPEG-IMX (50 Mbps, good for high quality productions) Digital Betacam (almost not compressed, can do EVERYTHING) and HDCAM (a high definition format, that has been used to produce theatrical movies, and whith some VTR's that can playback a Betacam tape recorded in 1982).
All of these professional, high quality formats use the same tape transport mechanism (with few minor modifications) that was designed for the Betamax, so I think that a part of the Beta format is still alive, and providing reliable machines, that work even in the worst conditions, and giving astounding motion pictures to the world.
Beta was better
Cesar Manuel Lopez from Europe left the message below on February 1. 2004, 13:17:
E-mail: riv at cim.es
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MY CARTOONS, MY ALF AND PINK PANTHER'S MEMORIES WHEN I WAS A KID ARE REGISTERED ON YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR A WHOLE LIFE OF ENTERTAINMENT. AND THANK YOU ALL THE ENGINEERS WHO GAVE IT TO LIFE.
Beta was better
geo from USA left the message below on January 25. 2004, 02:46:
E-mail: bossbullet at yahoo.com
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USA!USA! I Wish this didn't have to happen
Beta was better
NTSC ROCKS from Australia left the message below on January 22. 2004, 03:03:
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wat a bunch of faggots! ntsc fo' life!
Beta was better
Van Lauwe Alain from Europe left the message below on January 20. 2004, 15:42:
E-mail: alainvanlauwe at skynet.be
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Ifeel very sorry betamax videorecoders cease to exist.But congratulations to SONYfor their good work.It's a pity for about my 250 hours of Beatles Videotape I collected during all those years. Now I transfer them to VHS. Best wishes. Alain Van Lauwe , Blankenberge , Belgium
Beta was better
Andy Hearn from United Kingdom left the message below on January 14. 2004, 14:24:
E-mail: a.hearn at virgin.net
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Got my first Betamax in 1982, a C5, still using a C7 and an SL-F1, sorry to see go, but will keep mine going as long as I am alive!
Beta was better
Anne from Australia left the message below on January 2. 2004, 01:25:
E-mail: anne at ampublishing.com.au
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I am still mourning my Sony SL-C9E ... stolen several years ago while still in its prime ... if anyone in Oz has one for sale, I'd love to hear from you!
Beta was better
Alberto Luiz Sommacal from Other left the message below on December 15. 2003, 23:28:
E-mail: asommacal at hotmail.com
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SL 30MD foi meu primeiro Video Cassete.
Comprei a mais de 20 anos.
At hoje ainda funciona.
Que pena, vou sentir saudades quando ele estragar.
Beta was better
Karan from United Kingdom left the message below on November 22. 2003, 18:40:
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I have never used a betamax, but have used various betacam machine.
The digital decks are good, but digital VhS is better.
Beta was better
biezen leopold from Europe left the message below on November 18. 2003, 22:50:
E-mail: leovanbiezen at tomaatnet.nl
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470 banden en ik kan ze nietmeer afspelen s**t !!!!!!!!!!
Beta was better
Valerio from Europe left the message below on November 11. 2003, 19:40:
E-mail: vale72 at vivacity.it
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Salve. Ho avuto modo di avere Beta solo di recente, ma me ne sono subito innamorato. Reputo il mio Sony SL-HF 950 ES il miglior videoregistratore mai costruito. Vorrei conoscere altri appassionati italiani per scambiare opinioni e far restare vivo questo magnifico sistema.
Beta was better
John from Other left the message below on October 25. 2003, 05:22:
E-mail: jpalmer at netidea.com
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Canada
Luckily I have access to good, used Beta VCRs from my work at a Salvation Army Thrift shop where they're dirt cheap!
Beta was better
eduard from Europe left the message below on October 22. 2003, 21:10:
E-mail: e.elskamp3 at chello.nl
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I found the misery that the betamax from the face of the earth is disappeared. I self have also 2 sanyo betamax recorders had and both a toploader and also yet a tdk betamax cassette that just a vhs is. no real misery
eduard
Beta was better
pinbak from United Kingdom left the message below on October 19. 2003, 22:06:
E-mail: pinbak at hotmail.com
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bad day for the world of video - still collecting tho'
never surrender!!
Beta was better
Sonyx1983 from Europe left the message below on October 3. 2003, 16:43:
E-mail: Sonyx1983 at t-online.de
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I Like SONY and The BETAMAX format,but its not good that Sony stoped the production of the Beta VCRs.But i have a lot of fun with my Sony BETA SL-HF100EC Hifi and SL-C9E stereo VCR.I never want to give away these great Recorders!
Beta was better
Glen from USA left the message below on September 30. 2003, 00:53:
E-mail: gwestern at socal.rr.com
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My Beta is on its last legs and will be sad to see it go. As old as it is, it is still better than my vhs
Sadly, I guess it is time for digital.
Beta was better
Jesus from Europe left the message below on September 16. 2003, 18:38:
E-mail: JRodrigo at eresmas.net
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I have a big collection of Beta video cassette
and my old Sony Betamax SL-C40E does not work.
The laws of the market are unstoppable. At the end it is
always the victory of the bad (VHS).
I regret it
Beta was better
martin jenkins from Other left the message below on September 16. 2003, 13:48:
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still using a sony slhf150 that i bought here in nz in 1990, superb pic quality.
Beta was better
James Cullingmore from Europe left the message below on September 15. 2003, 21:49:
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I onced owned a beat machine, but then was forced to buy a
VHS as it was, as a whole, a better product.
Beta was better
Shaun from United Kingdom left the message below on September 14. 2003, 22:55:
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Terribly sad to see such a superb system go out of use - at least for domestic useage. I understand that professionally BetaCAMs etc are still in use. My first love was a Sony SL-F1 with a pig of an external camera. I bought it on reccomendation of the chief engineer at the local TV station who told me it was near broadcast quality and they had a few they used for ENG. How right he was. Superb.
Blows away VHS. If only Sony had not been so silly as to overcharge for Beta licences, when JVC (Thats the Junk Vending Corporation) were almost giving VHS away and shipping the evaluation models to Europe with a few soft porn tapes to keep the evaluators interested.
Beta was better
KUINO from Other left the message below on September 3. 2003, 23:34:
E-mail: adiosbeta at kikos.com
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ADIOS BETAMAX, FUISTE BUENA PERO TE MADREO LA VHS
Beta was better
Marek Gorecki from Europe left the message below on August 29. 2003, 09:50:
E-mail: goreckimarek at wp.pl
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Do wszystkich polsko jezycznych wideofili Beta. sam posiadam taki sprzet i jest zajebisty bije na leb ten nedzny VHS pod wzgledm kolorow czystego dzwieku jak i dynamiki. Ciekawe czy ktos mnie zrozumie zapraszam do korespondencji a wiem ze malo jest tego typu fanatykow w Polsce. Mam rowniez w domu video 2000 niezwykle ciekawy system dwustronny z rownie dobrym dzwiekiem. Jestem czlowiekiem molodym ale pasjonuje mnie stara technika, nowosci wcale mnie nie kreca.
Beta was better
Superapolon from Europe left the message below on August 26. 2003, 09:21:
E-mail: superapolon at hotmail.com
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N tenia ni puta idea que hubiera tanto flipao con el video Beta. De todas formas, el mio sigue ahi como un titn despues de unos 18 aos de servicio fiel a la familia, tanto como reloj, como video, como entretenimiento como para dejar cosas encima. I didnt know it was still in production, so I am not so shocked for its commercial death. But it will stay with us as it has been. Ese video Beta ahi!!!
Beta was better
Neilly from United Kingdom left the message below on August 4. 2003, 15:30:
E-mail: neilsargent at tiscali.co.uk
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Hi Guys, I have got a fully operational slhf100 hi-fi betamax recorder. The non hi-fi recorded tapes sound awful, do you have any tips on correcting my sound problem? I have tried cleaning the fixed audio head with a cleaning pen, with no avail. My betababy needs your help, thanks Neilly.
Beta was better
SYDNEY COBB from United Kingdom left the message below on August 1. 2003, 16:00:
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I REMEMBER VERY FONDLY OF THE AMAZING FIRST HI-FI BETA
AND WAS BLOWN AWAY BY THE FIRST RECORDING OF SOMEONE ON
TV PLAYING AGUITAR AND SING SOME FOLK SONG. THE SOUND WAS
QUITE AMAZING. AND STILL TODAY I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE
QUALITY OF THAT MACHINE. AND TODAY THEY ARE LIKE HENSE
TEETH. SORRY TO SEE SUCH A GREAT SYSTEM GONE LIKE THE DO
DO.
Beta was better
John Gordon from Other left the message below on July 24. 2003, 18:22:
E-mail: John.Gordon at agriculture.gov.ie
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A great machine for 15 years
Beta was better
Austin from Europe left the message below on July 18. 2003, 23:14:
E-mail: austin.morris at 12free.zzn.com
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Though Ive been collecting VHS-Hifi-Stereo recorders for quite a long time,
Ive always known that beta is superior to VHS, no matter if VHS, VHS-ET oder S-VHS.
Anyway, I never got the chance to own a beta-recorder myself.
But - its the same with PC and Amiga. Its not always the best that survives...
Sorry that beta is now gone... I guess Ill try to buy a used Hifi-beta recorder...
What was the best one?
Austin
Beta was better
MAXIMO MONTENEGRO from Other left the message below on July 4. 2003, 17:59:
E-mail: tlmm at mixmail.com
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PLEASE DONT GO
Beta was better
Michael Graham from United Kingdom left the message below on July 3. 2003, 20:56:
E-mail: mike137uk at yahoo.co.uk
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Goodbye, dear Betamax, you have served me well. For just a
tenner I bought an old Sony C5 from the dodgy bloke at the
car boot sale, and it played back almost true to the quality
of television, the lower resolution the only limit, after some
intensive cleaning it will hopefully record like that too.
Even SVHS falls short of betamax in my humble opinion. Beyond
the grave, I feel betamax will still provide, with many old
tapes and my humble C5 fighting beyond all odds, hopefully
the format still lives on, in the form of old machines like
mine.
Beta was better
Fredrik Marklund from Europe left the message below on June 30. 2003, 14:36:
E-mail: darksidedesignweb at hotmail.com
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Beta is still the coolest format around. I have about 500 original x-rentals to my machines. Greetings from Jrn - Sweden.
Beta was better
Wagner from Other left the message below on June 26. 2003, 15:36:
E-mail: wgn at ig.com.br
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SL-30 was my first desktop home video recorder and I'm sure it has been still the best...
Beta was better
Amanda from USA left the message below on June 19. 2003, 07:31:
E-mail: Mandapie2000 at aol.com
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I....was a baby when the Betamax was on the market....I do remember...that there was also...something similar to a Betamax...but it played large vinyl records....does anyone know what those where called? If so please e-mail me [email protected] am dying to know what they where called, so that I could locate one.
Beta was better
James T from USA left the message below on June 17. 2003, 21:50:
E-mail: jtkellertx at yahoo.com
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We Miss Beta But It Still Lives in Our Hearts, In Our Living Room, and On eBay
Beta was better
GUYMAN MUGU KEN from Other left the message below on June 14. 2003, 09:55:
E-mail: GUYMAN at MUGU.COM
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KEEP OFF O O O GUYS O O O I DON LAND O O O O OOO O OO UMU GUYS O O O KEEP OFF O O O
Beta was better
nick from United Kingdom left the message below on June 11. 2003, 12:26:
E-mail: nlavittic24net at ic24.net
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i still have a working slf100ub & a superbeta
slh950ub both working any offers ?
Beta was better
baz from United Kingdom left the message below on June 4. 2003, 09:25:
E-mail: nornmanbaz1 at aol.com
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it is the best system yet sorry to see it go
Beta was better
Andrew from USA left the message below on May 11. 2003, 03:52:
E-mail: skane75 at yahoo.com
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Goodbye betamax thanks for the memories !
Long live the DVD recorder the new betamax!
Beta was better
Michael Nagoda from Other left the message below on April 30. 2003, 01:16:
E-mail: mnagoda at yahoo.ca
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Goodbye Betamax, I'll miss you! Damn you VHS! BETA IS BETTER!!!!
Beta was better
derek from United Kingdom left the message below on April 26. 2003, 15:09:
E-mail: cosyslippers at hotmail.com
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Always the best! I still have my trusty old C9 and loads of stuff I'd like to transfer to vcd but the machine needs some attention - the picture is ok but the sound is not good. Anybody left out there in the UK who could service it?
Beta was better
Riccardo from Europa left the message below on April 24. 2003, 20:20:
E-mail: rmoresi at tin.it
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Il migliore, da sempre.
Beta was better
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf, Iraqi Informati from Other left the message below on April 23. 2003, 21:06:
E-mail: MSS at iraqinfomin.gov
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These lies you continually perpetrate against the Betamax, are complete fabrications! It is the Zionist propaganda which has made you crazy. Betamax, Allah be praised, is still the number one superior video format and will never run away! Never! I triple guarantee you! JVC has never progressed with their infidel VHS, if they had, which they have not, they would be commiting suicide before the Betamax and their stomachs will roast in Hell. The fabrications of Al-Jazeera against this great and benevolent format are LIES! Nothing but LIES perpetrated by the American press. Do not believe them! The Zionists snakes at JVC are merely persecuting those who are right and fair, and we will cut them to pieces and hit them with old shoes....
Beta was better
Carlos Moreno from Other left the message below on April 22. 2003, 19:52:
E-mail: carlmorenor at hotmail.com
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Aqui en Venezuela el Beta fue una tremenda maquina y duro 12 aos en el mercado, tengo tres maquinas y todavia funcionan muy bien las cuido como mis bebes, la ultima me la compre en el 89 y digital stereo hifi, con eta veo todos lo video que tengo, quien me ouede decir paginas en la wed para ver fotos de betamax gracias
Beta was better
Carlos Moreo from Other left the message below on April 22. 2003, 19:39:
E-mail: carlmorenor at hotmail.com
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I Do love you Beta, Please dont die on me, please dont go,
Beta was better
Steve Clark from USA left the message below on April 16. 2003, 21:26:
E-mail: clarksteveplayer at hotmail.com
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How could anyone so dumb as Sony be credited with inventing the Beta yet loose the war to VHS. Besides an 80's era Toshiba model I also have a reel to reel Beta tape from the early 1970's I still feel like I'm running a hay baler when I turn on my VHS. Maybe DVD will help me forget about VHS. What a sorry excuse for video. Thank you Sony for being so selfish and stupid.
Beta was better
Chris Cunningham from United Kingdom left the message below on April 16. 2003, 15:28:
E-mail: chriscGUIT at hotmail.com
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I was too young to own a machine, but I watched a pre-recorded Betamax cassette of Airplane when I was at college.
As well as enjoying the film, I thought the pic quality was excellent!
R.I.P. Betamax, your legend lives on in Betacam/HD...
Beta was better
Fredy Rincon from Other left the message below on April 14. 2003, 17:13:
E-mail: fredyrincon at msn.com
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Tuve la oportunidad de utilizar 3 modelos de betamax durante
mi adolescencia y fue un muy buen formato a pesar que los
modelos que tuve eran monofnicos. En Latinoamerica
el Betamax domin el mercado entre el 1985 y 1995 aprox.
Larga vida al Beta.
El rey ha muerto que viva el rey!!!!
Fredy Rincon desde Canada.
Beta was better
Eric N Wilson from USA left the message below on April 12. 2003, 20:39:
E-mail: enwilsonatmaildotcom at notarealserver.com
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The Beta/VHS/DVD/DVHS progression, like the LP/8-track/cassette/CD/DVD-A line of evolution, produces a sad--maybe unintended--byproduct of the free market, where the power of onrushing new (more "perfect") tech compels you to repurchase your favorite entertainment on new formats repeatedly. It's a sad and insidious thing that we have to rebuy our favorite movies every few years when new hardware comes along.
(Warning: prose poetry alert)
The people who have stayed with Beta against all odds send a message: "This is the place where my patience with you ends.
"'Value,' in my eyes, is measured in more than statistics, signifies more than profit margins.
"Your cast-off remnants of yesterday's model still has the power to transfix; your mute monolith of history is alive to me.
"Your shiny newness has no power in this space. I take this reminder that every sparkly gadget born today or tomorrow marches in the direction of obsolescence.
"You see junk, I see history."
Or something like that, anyway. :)
--eric w
Beta was better
Lisa from Australia left the message below on April 7. 2003, 05:58:
E-mail: skylar181 at hotmail.com
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hi although i admit i do not know much as far as technical things go...i do know beta is far superior than any vhs!! but i also have a question to anyone who may be able to help... i have the sony betamovie vrc200p and was wondering is there any manuals available online?? and does anyone know where in adelaide australia i can get all the accessories???
Beta was better
mitch from United Kingdom left the message below on April 7. 2003, 00:40:
E-mail: mb007f2369 at blueyonder.co.uk
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As a family we were quite late in owning a vcr at all. So it must of been about 1989 when i finally persuaded my father to buy a sanyo vtc5000 from a friend of mine, which i still have but it no longer works. I have quite a few sanyos but only two work both being sanyo vtc6500s.
One which was given to me by a friend of mine, the other the same friend spotted it on top of a dustbin so i had that away pretty quickly. long live beta the true king of video!!!
Beta was better
CRAIG FELSMANN from Australia left the message below on March 28. 2003, 06:22:
E-mail: kreigas at hotmail.com
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G'day fellow Betaphiles! I honestly thought I was the only person still interested in the classic old format. Good to see so many other fans from around the world. I own a 19 year old Sony SLHF 100 AS Beta hifi which has had a lot of use since new, and has only had one minor repair since new; 2 years ago. In 10 years time, I've gone through 2 VHS machines.I never could understand why Sony and other companies who made them didn't market them better, and maybe just a little cheaper! I still always record on the Beta, as Blind [and deaf] Freddy can even notice the superior picture and sound quality! I am interested in buying another Sony hifi Beta machine- new if possible. I've read that you can still get the PAL system recorders in Malaysia and Japan. Any info. would be greatly appreciated. R.I.P. Beta!...
Beta was better
Jos Nieves from Other left the message below on March 19. 2003, 19:21:
E-mail: 5081270 at mipunto.com
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EL FORMATO BETA DE SONY ES Y SERA POR SIEMPRE EJEMPLO DE UNA VIDEOGRABADORA CONSTRUIDA CON CUIDADO, DEDICACION Y MAXIMO ACERCAMIENTO A LA PERFECCION EN VIDEO, Y ESO NADIE LO PODRA CAMBIAR, GRACIAS A SONY POR AOS Y AOS DE VIDEO-ENTRETENIMIENTO, Y UN SALUDO A TODOS LOS AMIGOS FAN DE BETA,QUE AUN COMPARTEN ESTA PASION CONMIGO. MARZO 19 DE 2003
Beta was better
Shane from Australia left the message below on March 19. 2003, 05:15:
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Why dont you all get with the times? Beta had its time, albeit only about 1 day.
And it sucked, thats why VHS was and now DVD is the king of videos. Beta is not better. It sucks. Long live VHS!
Beta was better
Ken Rockley from Australia left the message below on March 16. 2003, 02:06:
E-mail: kenr1 at bigpond.com.au
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I have had Beta video recorders since they first became available in the late 1970's here in Australia. My first one was a Sanyo VTC 9300PN which I still have.I also have and have had since 1981 a backpack Sanyo Beta portable recorder and it still operates.Does anyone else have one of these as I have not seen one apart from mine?I had travelled thru the USA in 1981 with this unit and was constantly asked as to what it was ,as portable cameras were rare then. Long may the Beta format be remembered.!!
Beta was better
Fred S. from USA left the message below on March 10. 2003, 22:19:
E-mail: videoliquidators at comcast.net
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feel bad to see the production of beta movies
cease. It has not slowed down the sale of beta
movies at our site - they are still selling very
well because of their superior quality
Beta was better
Mohamad CHAMI from Europe left the message below on March 8. 2003, 23:20:
E-mail: chami at engineer.com
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I know nothing about video's technologies. But while I was surfing the net to find a business company capable of converting my Betamax tapes into VHS or DVD, I came across too many comments by amateurs, experts, etc... that says BETAMAX technology is much better than VHS. Now it feels bad to know that Betamax is gone. I will keep the tapes even after converting them.
Beta was better
David from United Kingdom left the message below on February 28. 2003, 13:54:
E-mail: adamsd at baxter.com
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I suppose it had to come.... but I still can't believe the gullible British public got conned into VHS in the first place. I have still got a working machine, but don't know how long for - It gets harder and harder to repair it. Like many, I still have lots of stuff on Beta, and I can truthfully say that much of it still surpasses the modern day VHS rubbish. A sad day !!!
Beta was better
Stu from Other left the message below on February 24. 2003, 12:15:
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I'm from New Zealand and have finally found a
decent Beta machine.
I've been looking for one for some time, but not wanting
to spend much money I thought I'd wait a bit longer and now
I have a very nice SL-HF100AS, in full working order - it
even came with the box and the advertising sheet,
although there was no remote.
The Beta format never really got a chance here due to strong
marketing by National of the VHS system.
It's just nice to have a machine that I can use when required
for compatibility reasons.
I don't believe formats ever 'die'. They just get surpassed.
Those who choose to continue to use the format keep it alive.
It's like the war over analog and digital. Just because
digital is the 'choice' format of today doesn't mean that we
stop using analog things. In fact some of us choose to keep
using it instead of the newer formats which aren't always
better.
In terms of superiority, just look at the pro format that has
come from Beta.
Can't say I've ever heard of VHSCam.... haha..
Last year I found several packs of brand new Beta tapes, still
in their plastic wrapper, thrown out with the rubbish.
This year it was the SL-HF100AS.
I wonder if I'll find a BVW-75P Betacam SP machine next year?
Beta was better
STEVEN TOLLEY from United Kingdom left the message below on February 22. 2003, 20:02:
E-mail: S.TOLLEY at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK
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LONG LIVE BETA IVE GOT THREE MACHINES AT THE MOMENT HOPE TO GET MORE SO DONT RUN OUT IF THEY BREAK WITH A THOUSAND PLUS LIBERAY SO LONG LIVE THE FORMAT BY THE WAY AS ANY BODY GOT A SLF30 EJECTION UNIT I CAN PURCHASE TOR THE HOLE MACHINE PLEASE HELP [email protected]
Beta was better
Gary Haddow from United Kingdom left the message below on February 13. 2003, 21:58:
E-mail: Gary at haddow2584.freeserve.co.uk
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It all started way back in 1979/80 when my parents bought a Sony C7(i was 8 yrs old back then) but several years later when the video heads wore out my mother bought that awfull format that should never have won the battle i got the trusty old C7 repaired and used it in my room.I have since collected several other machines(including several C7s for spares).I am now the proud owner of a Sony C9,F30 and HF100 all of which work.The picture quality of these machines far outshines my Sony SLV1000.Betamax is not dead not as long as all us Betamax owners keep it alive.Little did my parents know what they were about to start in 1979 when they bought THE SUPERIOR FORMAT.LONG LIVE BETAMAX.
Beta was better
dnaiel from United Kingdom left the message below on January 24. 2003, 12:00:
E-mail: grant.220t at virgin.net
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i loved betamax i used to buy every new machine as it came out...
but now i dont hting ill evar get over it . the picture quality was just excellent
and we shall never have another video system worthy of the title Betamax.
Beta was better
Jeff R from Other left the message below on January 23. 2003, 22:12:
E-mail: cafejeff at hotmail.com
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Please accept my sincere condolences regarding the demise of Beta.
But I do believe reports of Beta's death have been greatly exaggerated.
Old formats do not die, they fade away. Jeff
Beta was better
Carl Riley from Other left the message below on January 22. 2003, 14:28:
E-mail: Interfacetechs at qeiicc.co.uk
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SOB, SOB, WHIMPER, WHIMPER, TEARS ARE FLOWING IN ABUNDANCE.
I MUST SAY THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER THAN VHS BUT THAT'S
PROBABLY DUE TO MY EXPERIENCE WITH IT IN THE COMPETATIVE
DAYS IN SOUTH AFRICA WHEN THEY WERE UNDECIDED BETWEEN PHILIPS,
VHS AND BETA.
ALL I CAN SAY IS GOOD RIDDANCE.
BRING BACK VICTORIAN PORN!!!!
Beta was better
Winston Smith from United Kingdom left the message below on January 21. 2003, 17:39:
E-mail: wsmith at hotmail.co.uk
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I was glad to see the back of this format even though it was better than the VHS crap we have now.
Beta was better
Mark Coursey from Australia left the message below on January 19. 2003, 09:09:
E-mail: markac at chariot.net.au
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As a long time owner of an SL-HF950ES it is sad to see the the eventual passing of Betamax. The thing I find most regrettable was that Sony never released PAL format ED Beta
machines, although they were definitely prototyped! Oh! What might have been.
R.I.P. old friend knowing VHS is on borrowed time!
Beta was better
scott weller from United Kingdom left the message below on January 15. 2003, 15:42:
E-mail: scott.weller1 at btinternet.com
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It is indeed a sad day.
My family got a machine back in the late seventies (does anyone remeber it came with the film MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES??). I was seven and we recorded on it all the time. I was using beta up until 1988. It was and still is the best picture quality- video wise- totally superior by about four hundred per cent- to crummy old VHS.
BETAMAX R.I.P.
Beta was better
Sergio from Europe left the message below on January 15. 2003, 15:17:
E-mail: sergio_betamax at yahoo.co.jp
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You see the internet of the Sony Betamax repair with
photos:
http://homepage1.nifty.com/Sony/MainTenance/MyMainte.html
But all videorecorder Sony in the NTSC japanese only also
all remotes.
It's very good and excellent!
Hello!
Beta was better
John Pike from United Kingdom left the message below on January 6. 2003, 01:06:
E-mail: john.m.pike at btopenworld.com
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Ive got enough Beta Machines to keep me going for along time yet. Still nothing to beat it when recording from a Digital Source.They have also ditched Video 8mm (ORD) Cameras. Itis the policy to make quantity not Quality. Beta Ain't dead yet not by a long "Chalk".John
Beta was better
John Pike from United Kingdom left the message below on January 6. 2003, 00:57:
E-mail: john.m.pike at btopenworld.com
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Ive got enough Beta Machines to keep me going for along time yet. Still nothing to beat it when recording from a Digital Source.They have also ditched Video 8mm (ORD) Cameras. It the policy to make quantity not Quality. Beta Ain't dead yet not by a long "Chalk".John
Beta was better
Marshall from USA left the message below on January 4. 2003, 20:53:
E-mail: bama168 at comcast.net
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Have a Sony Super Betamax SL 390. That does not work, but have loads of recorded tapes that I would vry much like to play. Can anyone tell me where I can have this unit repaired, and if not where I can purchase another Beta mahcine.
Beta was better
John Narayan from Australia left the message below on January 2. 2003, 02:40:
E-mail: JOHN.NARAYAN at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM
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it was good while it lasted time to move on.
Beta was better
Elise Heinz from USA left the message below on December 29. 2002, 17:05:
E-mail: Elise at TheClaytons.com
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How sad. I still prefer and use my Betamax and will continue to do so. I've had a VHS machine, don't exactly know why, and will get rid of it as soon as I convert home "movies" of vacations and kids' little league games and the like to DVD. Fortunately, we never bought prerecorded VHS tapes, though I was a very good customer at Erol's oh-so-cheap selloffs of its Beta rental movies. I still buy them for 99 cents or even more on eBay. But only in "original" boxes. More efficient storage is just one of Beta's superior-to-VHS characteristics, but of some value.
My kids poke fun at all this, but it stands to reason. I hung on to my Osborne CPM computer long after everybody else switched to IBM, and I still hate Windows though I have to use it. Here's to the Good Old Days!
Beta was better
Madness from USA left the message below on December 29. 2002, 10:02:
E-mail: madness at somethingorother.com
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Sony must've banged the final nail into the coffin by now.
Beta ain't dead in my eyes, it's immortal!!! Long as wee keep
believing in it! Now I'm off to make a few more tapes. :)
Beta was better
shaun hodges from United Kingdom left the message below on December 25. 2002, 22:07:
E-mail: shaunhodges at yahoo.com
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My Toshiba Beta machine has just lost the picture, heads are dead.
Bought in 1982 it's been excellent. Got through at least 7 VHS machines in this time.
Bring back Beta!
Beta was better
Jeff Kenyon from USA left the message below on December 22. 2002, 15:25:
E-mail: at649 at tcnet.org
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Hi, too bad that this is all about $$$. Although I was very young and would get yelled at when trying to explore my uncle's Betamax and his Trinitron TV in 1981 and 1982 and only had a short time to play around with Betamax in the third grade in the winter and spring of 1986 I would have liked to get to know it more. I'm in the Detroit, Michigan area and if anyone wants to get together and talk about Beta E-mail me!
Beta was better
Jamie Brooks from USA left the message below on December 22. 2002, 02:14:
E-mail: holdonj at hotmail.com
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My 20 year old beta is still working...I am on my 10th VHS>
Bring the betamax back!!!!!
Beta was better
SCOTT TRAIL from USA left the message below on December 17. 2002, 18:30:
E-mail: S.G.TRAIL at USA.NET
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All that I have to say is I have only used Beta for 20 years.
I think that speaks for itself. It is too bad but recordable
dvd are the wave of the future. VHS is already on the way out.
Beta was better
Edward Wong IV from USA left the message below on December 5. 2002, 19:46:
E-mail: the_plugs at musician.net
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Another day has passed, and like the great pheonix, beta shall
rise from the ashes. I do not believe that this will end the beta
religon, but in the sake of all that's good, I say we all have a
moment of mindless videohead spinning in beta's honor...
And no, a word from sony in condolence over this travesty
will not be enough to soothe my nerves, Just be glad that the
great, farsighted people of radio shack shall bring forth
L-750's aplenty. Now, I must leave the burial to the parents,
but it is wrong for the parents to bury their child. Long live beta.
and excuse me while I go listen to my reel to reels of Chuck Berry and
watch my copy of bill and ted's excellent adventure, on betamax.
Sincerely,
Edward Wong IV
Beta was better
Eugene Mark Sully from United Kingdom left the message below on December 4. 2002, 17:22:
E-mail: eugene.sully at beat106.com
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I didn't realise that Sony kept it going until 2002 in NTSC!
I have had loads of beta machines and thought that the System was great.
Long Live Beta in our memories!
Beta was better
Sergio from Europe left the message below on December 2. 2002, 11:59:
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Last friday 11/29/02, I have to send e-mail for alls
Betaphiles, but this message original for president Sony in
the world. Nothing fax and email do not answer me. Past
saturday, I task that perhaps Sony they'll return the
production of new video recorders domestic Beta although
after we'll, Betaphiles, buy professional video recorders
Betacam. They cost so much, patience! The video player
professional Betacam of Sony are model J-3 that is very
good! But isn't recorder and no videocassette Betamax/HDCAM
for to see again. You see to go with attached file:
http://www.sonybiz.net/images/product/X/J-3-A(brch).pdf
Size and weight are very small 307x100x397mm and light 7Kg!
We need to buy new videorecorder professional (studio)
before of the video player professional J-3, do you as you
like?
For mister Antares Choate, very thank you for e-mail!
Betamax, Betacord and Betacam forever!
Beta was better
Rick Sims from USA left the message below on November 29. 2002, 01:16:
E-mail: noo_yawka at hotmail.com
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Just saw the announcement that Sony has discontinued the production of Betamaxes.
Sadly, this is not true...production of Betamaxes ended in the late '80s/early '90s with the end of the SL-HF860 line. The SL-HF2000 is a disgrace, an insult to the name "Betamax". And while I never had the pleasure of owning an SL-HF2100, I understand it wasn't much better.
Personally, I think Sony sucks, leaving us high and dry all these years. They lost the format wars for reasons of their own doing, and we, the loyal Beta addicts, have (and are) paid the price.
I have stocked up on Betamaxes the last few years, and now own about 30 machines, including four SL-HF1000s, five SL-HF750s and six SL-HF900s (plus a bunch of 360s, 400s, and sundry other machines...a 500, a T7, etc.), plus...a BRAND new, still in the box SL-HF860!
I will stick with Beta 'til the day I die. I have a huge supply of sealed L-750BTHG tapes, and a library of over 2,500 tapes containing movies, TV shows, etc. I never "watch" TV, I timeshift everything.
Beta is not dead, at least not in my home...as long as I have someone to fix them (and I do...I'd mention his name, but won't do so without his OK), I will be watching Beta for many years to come.
Kudos to Sony for developing the best video format ever created. A big thumbs down to Sony for failing to stand by their superior machine.
Beta was better
Sergio from Europe left the message below on November 22. 2002, 12:25:
E-mail: sergio_betamax at yahoo.co.jp
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Sono italiano. Ho possesso 2 videoregistratori Betamax Sony
SL-C33E grigio scuro metalizzato e Beta Hi-Fi SL-HF100EC che
sono funzionanti. Ho tante videocassette Beta, tutte le
durate, in cui raro una videocassetta Sony Standard L-165 di
45 minuti ed anno 1982-83 in versione PAL. Sono preoccupato
le brutte notizie per Beta e VHS che Beta cessano produzione
e VHS calano produzione (3 e 4 testine monofonici sono gi
scomparsi!). Sono triste! Noi vogliamo che Beta,
SuperBeta, Hi-Band Beta e ED-Beta producono ancora tutti gli
anni nel mondo. Il nastro mezzo pollice di Beta, Video2000
e VHS non muoiono mai. Abbasso DVD-Video registrabili in
pollice gi. Viva Beta! Devo parlare l'informazione con il
presidente Sony Italia per continuare a produzione i nuovi
videoregistratori Beta che invia al Giappone, speriamo
tanto. Ho maturato la scuola di tecnico industrie
elettronica ed elettrica. Faccio disegnare nuovi modelli di
Beta e Video2000, in cui inedita videocassetta MiniBeta
(simile VHS-C). Ho provato una videocassetta modificata
Beta L-1000 durata 4 ore e 20 minuti circa in modo BII
versione PAL e nastro lunga 294 metri che il nastro era
origine dalla videocassetta VHS E-300 Sony Prenium. Ma
preferisco il nastro pi sottile che sono sicuro la
videocassetta D-VHS DF-360 o DF-420 JVC. Provate il sito
giapponese di Sony Betamax: www.betamax.to che tutti i
cataloghi giapponesi dal 1975 al 1993 anche l'assistenza
riparazione, links, posters e gli archivi. So leggere
lingue inglese, francese, italiano, spagnolo, porteghese,
giapponese e coreano sui manuali e cataloghi.
Beta was better
Max Furuness from Other left the message below on November 20. 2002, 08:36:
E-mail: maxrf at telus.net
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(From Canada)
Very sad to see that Sony, in their wisdom decided to cancel Betamax production.
So nothing lasts forever, but but it is VHS that should deserve to die a
painful death and the Beta that should live on.
If enough of us Betamax enthusiasts write to Sony, maybe they will see
the error of their ways and continue to produce the Betamax!
(positive thinking is good !!) I currently own seven Beta VCR's:
SL-100, SL2401 (original owner), SL-2000/TT2000, SL-HF660,
VTC9100A (Sanyo- working!), VCR-7300 (Sanyo Beta HiFi portable,
And last but not least, a 1976 SLO-260 industrial Betamax-
in perfect working order !!!
--And my collection is just getting started! :)
Beta was better
franco mauti from Europe left the message below on November 9. 2002, 11:44:
E-mail: franco.mauti at email.it
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Egregio Sig.
Io sono italiano, nel 1982 acquistai in Arabia Saudita una cinepresa della Sony e un video registratore sempre della Sony.
Purtroppo il mio video registratore si rotto ed io ne vorrei acquistare un'altro, per poter vedere le cassette.
Vi sarei grato se voleste rispondermi per darmi informazioni a riguardo, indicandomi dove potrei rivolgermi per acquistare.
Cordiali saluti
Franco mauti
Inviatemi una e-mail
grazie
Beta was better
Gary Malone from USA left the message below on November 7. 2002, 18:39:
E-mail: collinsbarnabas at hotmail.com
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I have had a Betamax vcr since 1983, and am currently using
a SLHF860D Sony SuperBeta. I have been transferring my beta tapes to DVD-R
and don't really use it anymore for recording, but I still
use it occasionally. It has been and always shall be better than VHS. RIP
Beta was better
Troy from Australia left the message below on November 7. 2002, 01:17:
E-mail: ac_dc_rocks at hotmail.com
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Very sorry to see the Betamax go. I didn't know they still
made them. But why end the production when they are a better
machine than the VHS? Have Sony came up with a VCR that
equals or outdoes the quality of the Betamax? Anyhow although
I haven't yet used a Betamax but getting one soon I'm sad to
see the end of them. Also what about the Betamax tapes, is
Sony still going to continue to manufacture them or are they
going down the tubes too?
Beta was better
Pascal from Europe left the message below on October 28. 2002, 19:24:
E-mail: fenec95 at free.fr
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VIVA SONY BETAMAX SL-C7F SECAM (French TV System)
Beta was better
SM Porter from United Kingdom left the message below on October 28. 2002, 17:56:
E-mail: s.m.porter at talk21.com
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Bye bye Beta, you were the first format for me. Did it really die
just because you could'nt get a 4 hour tape? I don't think so.
Sony made a SHED load of money out of the format, and were really
the only manufacturer who made a real quality machine. I still have
a Sony C6 & C7 that still work, but several of my tapes are starting
to drop out due to oxidisation. Nothing lasts forever......
Beta was better
David Roffman from USA left the message below on October 23. 2002, 17:28:
E-mail: droffman at onebox.com
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To this day, my betamax deck is my preferred format. For sports taping, or anything that you would
want to view in multiple speed playback, still, nothing beats Beta.
Hopefully, some electronics maker will eventually bring the
utilities of the Beta formate, ie. slow/fast motion, step frame etc.
to the digital domain. Until then, I will always wonder
why....
Beta was better
Dave A. from USA left the message below on October 23. 2002, 02:47:
E-mail: avideo at earthlink.net
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As the owner of three Super Betas and one regular Betamax,
I'm sad to hear that Sony is finally stopping production of
these fine machines. Unfortunately, when Sony stopped
selling new Betamax VCRs here in the U.S., it was clear the
end was near for Betamax VCR production. IT WAS THE
SUPERIOR CONSUMER VIDEO FORMAT OF THE 1980s AND 1990s!
And if you are in the U.S.A. and need commercial grade
transfers of your treasured Beta tapes to other tape formats
or DVD; let me hear from you. My 13 year old company still
transfers Beta & SuperBeta to all major formats & DVD!
LONG LIVE BETA!
Beta was better
Denis Eddy from Australia left the message below on October 19. 2002, 18:17:
E-mail: byword at operamail.com
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Let not the contribution of Beta VCRs to digital sound recording be forgotten. A decade before DAT evolved into something almost usable, the combination of VCR / PCM-501 / L-750 was giving sound recordists something they still don't have from DAT: three hours of 44.1kHz, 16-bit recording in a robust physical format. Ave atque vale Domina Beta.
Beta was better
Mike Hayes from United Kingdom left the message below on October 18. 2002, 13:48:
E-mail: feg at fegsworld.fsnet.co.uk
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You gave me joy throughout my years,
as I sat back and watched with a couple of beers,
you've recorded great movies and wierd old ads,
you survived all my other odd 80s fads,
As the 90s began they all took the mickey,
with vhs decks all shiney and pretty,
They said I was silly and needed to invest,
In this crappy quality medium VHS!
I held on tight and tried and tried,
I swore I'd never let you die,
You were loyal and good sitting there on your shelf,
never chewing a tape or throwing a belt.
And now your time has come to pass,
Your glory days are over,
But still I dont use DVD,
I use my Betamax toploader!
Beta Forever!
Beta was better
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Beta was better
Walter Steenvoorden from Europe left the message below on October 14. 2002, 18:13:
E-mail: umatic at zonnet.nl
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You where not killed by VHS, you evolved to Betacam!
Beta was better
S Lakin from United Kingdom left the message below on October 13. 2002, 18:11:
E-mail: SBlueharp at aol.com
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I Still can't find a machine good enough to replace my C9's
If only Sony still made them.
R.I.P
Beta was better
Carl Riley from United Kingdom left the message below on October 11. 2002, 23:56:
E-mail: nine at zathras.freeserve.co.uk
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You were better than VHS, but you were a
b***h to fix. Despite this, a certain job
satisfaction was gleaned from repairing your
like, something that is sometimes missing
these days.
You may even be missed ;)
Beta was better
christu from United Kingdom left the message below on October 11. 2002, 21:11:
E-mail: maleha at btopenworld.com
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I HAVE BEEN USING BETAMAX SEINCE THE EARLY EAIGHTYS, AND STILL
KEEP THE FORMAT ALIVE FOR AS LONG AS I CAN.
I HAVE ARROUND 6 MACHINES WORKING AT THE MOMENT, AND PLENTY
OF SPARES FROM STRIPED DOWN MACHINES.
IT IS BECOMING MORE DIFFICALT TO FIND THESE MACHINES, BUT
THEY STILL TURN UP AT CAR BOOT SALES.
THIS IS STILL THE BEST VIDEO SYSTEM.
BETAMAX WILL NEVER DIE SO LONG AS WE KEEP IT ALIVE.
Beta was better
Travis Keese from USA left the message below on October 3. 2002, 10:31:
E-mail: tmko at juno.com
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Hello,How are you?First of all I would like to state that it is so very ironic that the music videos and movies that we make and obsess over are all recorded on the format Betacam!Why is that?Does Beta make that much of a difference?You bet it does!!I may be wrong,but why are movies and the like always recorded on Beta?It is obvious to me.What a superior sound and quality of picture the beta brings.Yet not any people under the age of 30 or sometimes older have even heard of Beta!!I may be wrong but it seems a tragedy and shamful crime that beta is swept away with the course of time.Oh well at the opposite extreme
I'm happy to be one of a vast few who can still appreiciate and enjoy such underestimated wonder!!!Please tell me if I am wrong!! I can remember recording mine and my brothers music directly onto the beta tape.It made an amazing difference.The live sound of his drums and my guitar was a shock to me,but my brother knew that the quality and sound would be incredible,and he was so right!! We were using the only Beta we ever had,and still own a Sony SL-HF500.I can never find any info on this model!!!It seems like it is a fantom of all other Beta's!!But it is awesome!!!!Oh well then...........Such as life...
Beta was better
Simon Newbery from United Kingdom left the message below on October 3. 2002, 01:12:
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I thought it was dead already ! So the news was a shock.
I have a C9 and although someone wants to charge me a fortune
to have it repaired (think a FOUR figure sum here - don't
laugh !) it was still the best VCR money could buy for so may years.
Represented Sony at its very best just like HF950. The build
on these machines is incredible. Same can be said for my
Sony VHS SLV715 which I am just having repaired.
New VCR's today are complete rubbish including Sony's. I now
have a SVHS but the standard VHS on it is so inferior to my 715.
They really are engineered down to a price now - very sad
you can't buy a decent machine anymore.
Lets hope they get recordable DVD sorted out ! Sony take note!
I hope Sony have learnt from Betamax
Beta was better
Ron Hebb from USA left the message below on October 2. 2002, 04:36:
E-mail: ocanada6 at yahoo.com
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To me, Sonys decision is almost anticlimactic, given their
neglect of the Betamax format these past several years and
the almost universal perception by everyone except diehard
fans that Beta had disappeared a long time ago. It would
have been nice to always have a selection of new models
to choose from, but regardless, I will always use Beta
for off-air recording and will maintain and grow the
collection of Beta VCRs and recordings I own, so I will
never think of the format as dead.
Beta was better
Jesse Alonzo from USA left the message below on October 2. 2002, 02:03:
E-mail: webmaster at wards.com
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I really wish that I could have gotten the chance to own
a brand new Beta. Oh well, at least I have my SL-HF300,
SL-2000, BMC-100, and HVC-2200 to keep me company. :) Hope
my post doesn't get removed!
Beta was better
nathan from United Kingdom left the message below on September 30. 2002, 00:57:
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So long old PAL.Fond memories of a superior system.
My first was a Sony C5 all those years ago.
Beta was better
GARY HADDOW from United Kingdom left the message below on September 28. 2002, 15:41:
E-mail: GARY at HADDOW2584.FREESERVE.CO.UK
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SORRY TO SEE YOU GO YOU WERE ALWAYS FAR SUPERIOR
Beta was better
mike from USA left the message below on September 24. 2002, 03:05:
E-mail: reimomo830 at aol.com
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Beta isnt really dead as long as we keep using it...
and its not going away as a professional system anytime
soon...vhs is commercial grade, Beta is professional grade.
Beta was better
Christian Knig from Europe left the message below on September 24. 2002, 01:14:
E-mail: nordkorea at yahoo.de
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Betmax isnt dead, only because they stop producing new VCRs.
Even Video 2000 is quite alive among fans and specialists, and it
has a little renaissance.
Betamax will move on among his loyal followers.
I think, Betamax and Video 2000 will outlive the ghastly
VHS system, because Beta and V2000 really have a diehard fanbase.
Beta was better
jan wagendrever from Europe left the message below on September 23. 2002, 20:22:
E-mail: jan.wagendrever at nob.nl
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How sad! I thought it died years ago, but not my house stil going strong is my SL-HF950, with superior picture (some trouble with the sound though) but this machine will live forever!
Beta was better
Juanjo from Europe left the message below on September 23. 2002, 00:19:
E-mail: thorete at teleline.es
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No comments :-(
Beta was better
Dale Tucker from USA left the message below on September 20. 2002, 23:50:
E-mail: daletucker at surewest.net
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Very sorry to learn of BETA's demise. I'm on my second unit, a factory refurbed SONY SL-HF360 I bought in 1991. Works like a champ and not even their best. Great picture and audio, of course; mechanical mode changes are SO much more positive and quick than VHS. A friend gave me his slightly used thousand-dollar JVC S-VHS unit. Fine machine but not nearly the unit as my little BETA.
I'm scouring the used market (garage sales, etc.) for a couple of back-up units, just in case.
Beta was better
A. Choate from USA left the message below on September 19. 2002, 22:08:
E-mail: betaphile at yahoo.com
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It's sad but I saw it comeing when the VCR's got scarce and they prduced only a limited number of the same unit
Beta was better
Madness from USA left the message below on September 18. 2002, 04:58:
E-mail: madness.elf at verizon.net
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Sony? Why would you kill our beloved format??? Your own brainchild for God's sake!
For I've christened our little group of enthusiests (or is it now preservists??), "Lords
of the Video: Fellowship of the Beta!" The quality is our God; the Beta VCR our idol;
the passion our religion! Worship thy beta; thou shalt never die!
Beta was better
Giancarlo Colleoni from Europe left the message below on September 14. 2002, 18:35:
E-mail: music2 at spm.it
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It is a very mishap have lost the Betamax sytem video! It was an exclusive and non common system! I've an old SANYO VTC PAL 5010 for playback my old beta tapes! I can't find in Europe Betamax video cassette or a new or used Betamovie!
I'm very sorry!
Many regards to all!
From Italy
Giancarlo!
Beta was better
David Mermelstein from Other left the message below on September 13. 2002, 02:54:
E-mail: dmermels at cvtci.com.ar
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Fue una gran historia la del Betamax, un verdadero smbolo del poder de la creatividad humana. Siempre seguir usando una video Beta en mi mente. All of my life was is and will be recorded by my Beta-Mind with the Mazinger Z's power.
Beta was better
Iain West from United Kingdom left the message below on September 12. 2002, 23:40:
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My first video was a Sanyo VTC-NX100. A wonderful machine and I still kick myself for giving it away back in '89! (I was only 13 at the time!) In the last couple of years I've come back to the fold and am currently playing with a VTC-5150, BMC100 and a HVC4000 (waiting for something to play with it though!)
As someone else said, Beta 'aint dead it's just resting!
Beta was better
van dam from United Kingdom left the message below on September 11. 2002, 21:39:
E-mail: betadude at fsmail.net
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From all the British people here today we would like to honour and salute those who perished on that darkest of dark days. We love the people of America and may God bless each and every one of you. Love from the U.K.
Beta was better
Kenny McCormic from USA left the message below on September 8. 2002, 03:33:
E-mail: Kenny at SouthPark.com
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Mm mm mmm! Ahmm hmmmd mmtm! Hmm hmmstmmdm!
Oh my god! They killed Beta! You Bastards!
Beta was better
Michele from USA left the message below on September 7. 2002, 16:11:
E-mail: harlandwolf at aol.com
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I thought you were dead already. sorry. :(
Beta was better
Jim Lovell from USA left the message below on September 7. 2002, 16:03:
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So long Betamax and we thank you for the years of memories you recorded faithfully...
Beta was better
Olive E Thomas from USA left the message below on September 7. 2002, 01:30:
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Betamax will live on with the ages unlike that other system who's name eludes me at the moment...
Beta was better
Barry Mung from United Kingdom left the message below on September 6. 2002, 22:17:
E-mail: barrymung at mailcity.com
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Dead...but not forgotten!
I still have my first video in the attic, a VTC5000 that is still in need of a new reel idler and 500+ tapes containing recordings from the 80's..
Maybe if enough people hassle Sony they'll produce one last batch of PAL Beta machines for the UK. After all they still make U-Matic machines, a format that was invented in the 60's..then gain they probably won't.
Farewell Betamax my old friend, sleep well. You were the best ever and even though the masses never discovered your charms we will never forget!
Take care, see you on the other side. Heaven uses Betamax!
Beta was better
JOHN GLANVILL from United Kingdom left the message below on September 6. 2002, 16:59:
E-mail: JOHNGLANVILL at HOTMAIL.COM
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Dear Sony - My first purchase was a Sony C7 which I still have. I also have an SL-25, this was by far the best system in the world and still is, it should never have been completely killed off, long may Beta-live. Gone but never forgotten. John Glanvill
Beta was better
colin b judd from Australia left the message below on September 6. 2002, 12:05:
E-mail: the mad doctor at primus.com.au
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Trust the bloody Japs to stuff up a good thing,truth be known they more than likely copied the Beta format from someone else,which they are very adept at doing,long live Beta
Beta was better
Martin Imber from United Kingdom left the message below on September 5. 2002, 13:09:
E-mail: martin at jotika.cooo.ukkkkkk
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This is sad but at least DVD killed it off and not that horrible JVC format!
Beta was better
Mr Angry Dude from United Kingdom signed the guestbook on September 4. 2002, 21:47.
Beta was better
Tom Murray from USA left the message below on September 4. 2002, 03:16:
E-mail: ProMediaTek at aol.com
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It is with great sadness I heard the news that SONY is discontinuing the production of new Betamax VCR's. Betamax was the FIRST and BEST widely used consumer video recording tape format in the world. Our resourcefulness will keep these units going for a long time. Parts and literature will be found for many years to come as is for old radios and old automobiles. Remember the Beta cassette housings are still manufactured for Betacam, Betacam SP and DigiBeta. Load them with 1/2 inch oxide tape and keep those Betamax's alive!!
Beta was better
Franny Wentzel from Europe left the message below on September 4. 2002, 02:26:
E-mail: franny_wentzel at yahoo.co.uk
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Von Goethe - Fr eine Maschine von der Konsequenz nicht soweit sie etwas hinter aber bis jetzt es Taten lt und geniet, und von den rouses bleibt andere zur Ttigkeit und zum Genu...
From Goethe - For a machine remains of consequence not so far as it leaves something behind but so far it acts and enjoys, and rouses others to action and enjoyment...
Beta was better
Gary Haddow from United Kingdom signed the guestbook on September 3. 2002, 20:03.
Beta was better
DasImperator from USA left the message below on September 3. 2002, 18:31:
E-mail: DasImperator at aol.com
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Beta isn't dead - it's resting...
Beta was better
Seppo T. from Europe left the message below on September 3. 2002, 10:07:
E-mail: seppo.tollikko at gsf.fi
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The Good always die first...
Beta was better
Martin Evans from United Kingdom left the message below on September 2. 2002, 14:10:
E-mail: martin at palsite.info
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Production may be at an end but our enthusiasm for the format will surely continue for many years to come. The complete end of Betamax though has not come yet; at least some new parts are still available. Admittedly new spares are getting harder and harder to get each year so now might be a good time to stock up on some key items. Our ingenuity and resourcefulness will surely keep these units going for a long time yet.
Beta was better
Alan Barnett from United Kingdom left the message below on September 2. 2002, 10:38:
E-mail: alan at barnett.org
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It is with deep sadness I heard the news that production of new Beta VCR was to cease. I am sure however that the format will be around for some time to come given the enthusiasm of those that use Betamax. If no more VCRs are to be made then the those that have been produced will be valued even more than ever!

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